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updated: Feb 23, 2013, 2:00 PM

Do you think there is a cure for homelessness? Some Swedes seem to think they've figured out this mess.

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 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 02:30 PM

In America there are laws aganist staying in those places personally I stink America would much rather things stay the way they are..Homelessness is a business in America the poor and destitude the crops.


 COMMENT 377882 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 02:49 PM

Roger said it, Homelessness ( the PC term) is a huge business, especially in Santa Barbara. There are literally 1000's of "professionals" who are on large taxpayer supported salaries that "work with the homeless..." They WANT the homeless here, they NEED the homeless here- otherwise they (County Social workers, Drug/Alcohol counselors, Casa, Rescue Mission, Salvation Army etal adiministrators and workers, SB Housing Authority "machine" employees and a host of other enabling organizations, would all be without a job in Santa Barbara. They might have to relocate to LA, SF, Fresno or B'field...


 COMMENT 377885P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 03:00 PM

If you want to know what ails this country - read the current issue of Time. If we are upset at others helping the less fortunate, why on earth are we not incensed and enraged at what the medical establishment (not doctors and nurses) and the private prisons, and other vultures are doing to this country. It is evil beyond acceptance. The "failings" of those trying to help the less fortunate is a speck of dust in comparison.


 COMMENT 377886 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 03:02 PM

Because clearly you can just snap your fingers and suddenly there wouldn't be any homeless people in Santa Barbara, 882.

You can't eradicate homelessness. Making it illegal is ridiculous. There's no silver bullet solution.


 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 03:04 PM

I remember years ago in sobierty many sober people were going to school to become Drug/Alcohol counselers. I was going to also do it but an old friend of mine named George who was in the program with me read me the riot act he said "That's not what AA is all about, it's not about selling or making money.." He said some other things too he really got mad at me..I cannot repeat all he said. I'm glad I didn't go back to school for that for those that did it's none of my business I'm not in the program anymore..It's not for buying and selling it's a spiritual thang..Those 12-Steps can be used for many things besides alcohol follow them and your life can change. It's too bad about all the abandoned structures in our country they are a wastin there are so many places the internet has alot of information about them.


 COMMENT 377906P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 04:38 PM

Hermes: @882 is completely right. The homeless are a cottage industry in Santa Barbara. Without them, jobs would be lost. We can and should illegalize some of the homeless people's more outrageous behavior. We can start by making public cigarette smoking illegal anywhere in the business district and then have an aggressive enforcement policy by police. Not much, but it's a start. The bums have more than outworn their welcome.


 COMMENT 377912 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 04:44 PM

Think that through. Especially given our current incarceration rates and prison overcrowding. Locking more people up is not the answer. Period. I don't disagree with you on principle, I just feel like "make __________ illegal!" is a kneejerk reaction that doesn't take into account the realities of our prison/law enforcement/judicial systems.


 COMMENT 377936 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 05:26 PM

Is this a serious question? Or a hook to post some poetry?

Most of the destitute homeless are there because of drugs and alcohol fried their brain. This according to a night cop that dealt with them all night long. An older think-tank study claimed the homeless were a third Vietnam Vets, a third druggies and alcoholics, and a third legitimate between jobs homeless.

Providing low cost housing (including R.V. parks) takes some off the streets. But only for those with life skills that can maintain a residence. Schizophrenics prefer living away from people, sometimes in river bottoms.

You can only help people that can help themselves. Some, unfortunately, are beyond that. And we are in the process of legalizing something that is known to cause schizophrenia and more serious drug use. That is playing Russian roulette with your brain.


 COMMENT 377938 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 05:27 PM

If you stop the feeding and the housing ....they will leave. If you no longer have a coddling by our City "leaders", businesses (tax generater$) complain to City staff, Mayor, Council, and we hire an aggressive City Attorney, who is not afraid of his own shadow and cares to work with our PD, Chief and DA, we can lessen this plague to a huge degree.


 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 05:36 PM

I agree with that locking people up is not the answer unless they continue to break the laws..There really should be a designated place for everyone to sleep. Our shelters are mostly full. Most of the shelters refuse to take in people who are drunk, or loud, or even people they cannot take care of. Many of the houseless ripping up Santa Barbara and many other towns refuse to sober up they think everything is a big joke. They think they have the right to violiate peoples lives.. I get sick of cleaning up everyones poopy in my HOOD. I don't like hookers following me around gotta go..


 COMMENT 377953 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 05:46 PM

Fine the people that hand out money to the homeless on the street. they are just buying drugs and alcohol. If you want to help get involved with an organization such as the salvation army, transition house.


 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 05:58 PM

Roses are red violets are blue I am a schizophrenic and so am I..Anyway the police and Caltrans were next door today cleaning out some camps and I'm grateful they were these guys were destroying the neighbors proptery and they aien't even paying any rent. If your going to crash out on other peoples proptery at least clean up your mess..Thanks to everyone who came out and cleaned up 211 South Milpas probably be calling the cops tonight. They will be back to make another mess..


 COMMENT 377996P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 07:13 PM

Capitalism is a bad thing?? I wish someone could rationally explain why...


 COMMENT 377999 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 07:17 PM

Capitalism has a tendency to skew towards the wealthy at the expense of the poor. Simple as that. Look at the ridiculous wealth and class gaps in this country and the lack of class mobility, for example.

Better than other systems, to be sure, but it has its faults.


 COMMENT 378025P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 08:54 PM

WHAT lack of class mobility? What does that mean?


 COMMENT 378049P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 11:21 PM

Whatever can be done to make Santa Barbara less attractive to the homeless, should be done. I agree that it has become a cottage industry of sorts.

I would vote for outlawing smoking on State Street and along Cabrillo Blvd and any CIty beaches----in a heartbeat. Not only would that get rid of a lot of the "domicile challenged," it would clear the air and keep more cigarette butts out of our ocean. The beggars will leave, once they realize their main hang out for hand outs is off limits.

Better yet, why can't we pass an ordinance against panhandling by using signs? I am saddened to see how "dirty" and kind of creepy our main drag has become. In less than five years, walking on State St has morphed from being a nice, pleasant stroll into running a gauntlet of beggars.

And having transients lurking at off ramps, outside Trader Joe's and other areas is a real drag. Why are we allowing this?

I was having lunch at Aldo's yesterday, when some woman suddenly came stalking up State and started yelling at the top of her lungs. And I mean LOUD. And on and on. People didn't even give her a second glance. Is this what has become of us? We have become inured to these types of disturbances, to all this craziness? Terrible.


 COMMENT 378054P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-24 05:23 AM

+1 for making public smoking off limits on city streets, especially near businesses.

I totally agree with the others here if the DA et al would really dig in their heels & run these street urchins off State, business would pick up in a flash.

It will take the entire city if they honestly want the problem to decline.

City - What say you?


 COMMENT 378057 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-24 07:11 AM

49P I was lunching last week and the man behind me was yelling into his cell phone. You can't win.


 COMMENT 378076P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-24 08:17 AM

We don't let stray animals roam the streets, why are we less humane with humans? Because they have the "right" to pee their pants and live in constant fear? That's "freedom"?

Every homeless person should be screened for a mental disorder. If found, they are humanely instiutionalized and appropriately medicated (instead of self medicated with alcohol and street drugs). If not mentally ill, they work- somewhere, somehow, in whatever capacity they are capable- maybe in said institutions- with affordable housing.

Perhaps this sounds too "big brother" but it breaks my heart to see the mentally ill treated worse than animals. For the slackers, get off ur ass and work like the rest of us!


 COMMENT 378085 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-24 08:59 AM

Years ago when I was in San Francisco, they had a program called "CRASH PADS". People who had an extra bedroom or a couch would register as being available to take in a homeless person for a few days, and the homeless person would go to an office, register, and a person in the office would get on the phone and locatae a home for him/her to stay in. This was (in my opinion) a very good program and I had several people stay with me over a period of time. Some just needed time to get their feet on the ground and move forward, which many of them did.


 COMMENT 378163 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-24 02:27 PM

Sociopaths have such nice things to say.


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